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The Star--Aurora Shooter's Permit was Revoked but Gun Wasn't Seized

Could the same thing happen in Canada?


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Could the same thing happen in Canada?AURORA, Ill. - An initial background check failed to detect a felony conviction that should have barred the man who killed five co-workers and wounded six other people at a suburban Chicago manufacturing plant from buying the gun. Months later, a second background check of Gary Martin found his 1995 aggravated assault conviction in Mississippi involving the stabbing of an ex-girlfriend. But it prompted only a letter stating his gun permit had been revoked and ordering him to turn over his firearm to police—raising questions about the state’s enforcement to ensure those who lose their permits also turn over their weapons. (The Star—Aurora Shooter’s Permit was Revoked but Gun Wasn’t Seized, Feb.17, 2019)

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RCMP Report: Firearms Licensing and Registration Errors for 2017

Response to Access to Information Act request dated February 3, 2019 RCMP ATIP FILE: A-2018-03594 Received by Dennis R. Young February 15, 2019—Detailed analysis of attached statistics pending (RCMP Report: Firearms Licensing and Registration Errors for 2017 Feb. 15, 2019)

  • As of May 31, 2018, the number of persons prohibited from owning firearms still in possession of registered firearms = 186
  • As of May 31, 2018, the number of persons with an expired or revoked licence still in possession of their registered firearms = 15,111
  • As of December 31, 2017, the number of persons prohibited from owning firearms still in possession of their firearms licence = “The Canadian Firearms Registry (CFR) does not keep these statistics.”

OPEN LETTER #4 TO SENATORS: re: Evidence Lacking on High, Medium and Low Priority Gun Control Targets

Why are 443,043 convicted criminals prohibited from owning firearms by the courts allowed to roam Canada free of any of the government’s gun control programs? On November 24, 2004, Firearms Commissioner Bill Baker testified before the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights: “On the change of address, if someone is prohibited from having a firearm in the country they are no longer effectively covered by the Firearms Act.” Maybe it’s time they should.  (Dennis Young—Evidence Lacking on High, Medium and Low Priority Gun Control Targets. Feb. 5, 2019)

Excerpt: Evidence not Available to Parliament From the RCMP Canadian Firearms Program!

  • The CFIS database does not capture information concerning the illegal acquisition of firearms by prohibited persons.
  • The average number of days it takes to get information about these firearms prohibition orders into the Canadian Firearms Information System and in police hands could not be determined within the established timeline.
  • The Canadian Firearms Program (CFP) is unable to provide information on the average time it takes from when information about these firearms prohibition orders get into the hands of the police until the firearms and weapons are removed from the person’s possession.
  • The CFP is unable to provide information regarding periodic police searches conducted of the homes of persons subject to firearms prohibition orders to ensure that they haven’t acquired firearms or other weapons illegally.
  • Persons subject to a firearms prohibition order are required to turn in their Firearms Possession and Acquisition Licenses, Authorizations to Transport, Authorizations to Carry and Firearms Registration Certificates to authorities but tracking compliance is optional? Seizure of a revoked firearms licence, registration certificate or authorization is the responsibility of the police service of local jurisdiction. As part of ongoing investigations, the CFO of jurisdiction or the Registrar of Firearms may follow up with the police of jurisdiction to ensure appropriate disposition of firearms or associated documentation.
  • The CFP does not collect information regarding the average number of days it takes to get information about license refusals and revocations into the hands of the Canadian Firearms Information System and front-line police personnel responsible for actual enforcement of these orders.
  • The CFP does not collect information regarding the average time it takes between the time information about these license revocations gets to the hands of the police before the firearms and weapons are removed from the person’s possession.
  • The CFP is unable to provide information regarding periodic police searches conducted of the homes of individuals, who are subject to license revocations to ensure that they have surrendered all their firearms and haven’t acquired firearms or other weapons illegally.
  • What follow-up action is taken to ensure persons subject to firearms license revocations required to turn in their documentation such as Firearms Possession and Acquisition Licenses, Authorizations to Transport, Authorizations to Carry and Firearms Registration Certificates to authorities? A summary of these practices across all police services could not be collected in the time allotted for this response.
  • NO STATISTICS ON: the average time it took to initiate an investigation of a FIP event;
  • NO STATISTICS ON: the average time it took to complete the investigation of a FIP event;
  • NO STATISTICS ON: the number of FIP events that resulted in firearms being removed from possession of the licensed gun owner; and
  • NO STATISTICS ON: the average time it took from reporting of the FIP event to the firearms being removed from the possession of the licensed gun owner.

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Dennis R. Young -- Bio and Archives | Comments

Dennis Young retired to Airdrie, Alberta in 2007 after working for 13 years on Parliament Hill for Garry Breitkreuz, MP for Yorkton-Melville. Dennis is a member of the Calgary RCMP Veterans Association and a Honourary Life Member of both the Canadian Shooting Sports Association and the National Firearms Association. For his 20-year crusade for the rights of firearms owners, Dennis received the NFA’s David A. Tomlinson Memorial Award for 2014 and the CSSA’s John Holdstock Memorial Award for 2014.


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