Wars And Rumors of War: Setting The Record Straight

"For those who believe no explanation is necessary; for those who do not believe, no explanation will suffice."--Joseph Dunninger

There is much disinformation, misinformation, and outright lies going around about the conflict in the Middle East—who took whose land, who the aggressor is, and why the hatred? Much of this ignorance comes from the universities and the media. A short history is warranted to set the record straight.

By VOWG on 2023 10 14

The goal of Islam is the complete destruction of all Jews. The koran says so.

By RiverFred on 2023 10 14

The heart of Islamic theology that world peace will be established only when all the Jews are wiped from the earth. But few people in Western media are alarmed by this kind of rhetoric or care to expose this dreadful dark side of Islam's obsession with Jew-hatred.

By Mad Celt on 2023 10 14

If the Palestinians lay down their weapons there will be peace. If the Israelis lay down their weapons there will be no more Israel.

By June Simon on 2023 10 15

You have it all wrong. The modern state of Israel is not God sanctioned. In Jeremiah 18 and 19
God gives a prophecy that He will break the pot (Israel) which can never be put back again.
This came true in AD70, the Roman destruction. The modern state of Israel was created by
men not God (Zionists).

God, in fact divorced himself from Israel, never to be a nation ever again. These socalled Jews
in Israel dont even have any semitic blood in their veins. They are Khazars. the Palestinians
are the only Semites in so called Israel.

By David Stempien on 2023 10 15

Zephaniah 2:4, For Gaza shall be forsaken, and Ashkelon desolate: they shall drive out Ashdod at the noon day, and
Ekron shall be rooted up.
2:5 [Woe] unto the inhabitants of the sea coast. the nation of the Cherethims, the word of the Lord is
against you: O Canaan, the land of the Philistines, I will even destroy thee without an inhabitant.
Zechariah 12:9 And in that day will I seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

By Sandra Lloyd on 2023 10 15

If I could write this in size 48 font, I would. The biggest THANK YOU! for writing this. I will share it everywhere. God bless you!

By John Sutherland on 2023 10 15

A couple of thoughts. First of all, israel has never fulfilled its UN obligations to become a 'state' in 1948 so it remains merely a military regime. Israel never polled the residents of Palestine before it changed the borders within Palestine. Israel has no written constitution, so it can never violate its own 'rules' of conduct. Maps do show a country called Palestine and there is a lot of evidence that shows Palestine did exist before the zionist landed and took possession of the country with military force. Palestine was a country that was mixed between Muslims, Christians, and Jews. Also, note that A/RES/43/177 recalled UNGA resolution 181 (II) of 29 November 1947.

I don't want to start quoting international law here, because I am not an international attorney, but it appears to me that israel is not a legal state as defined by the UN. If you choose to challenge my opinion, please support your view with evidence. Thank you.

By Left Coast on 2023 10 15

Great Summary of the FACTS . . . . something rare in today's Fake Media world!

June . . . you obviously didn't read the Book . . .

the Arabs did which is why they are so upset.

Zachariah

2 Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.

3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

4 In that day, saith the Lord, I will smite every horse with astonishment, and his rider with madness: and I will open mine eyes upon the house of Judah, and will smite every horse of the people with blindness.

5 And the governors of Judah shall say in their heart, The inhabitants of Jerusalem shall be my strength in the Lord of hosts their God.

6 In that day will I make the governors of Judah like an hearth of fire among the wood, and like a torch of fire in a sheaf; and they shall devour all the people round about, on the right hand and on the left: and Jerusalem shall be inhabited again in her own place, even in Jerusalem.

8 In that day shall the Lord defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the Lord before them.

9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

11 In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon.

12 And the land shall mourn, every family apart; the family of the house of David apart, and their wives apart; the family of the house of Nathan apart, and their wives apart;"

By mark a rhoads on 2023 10 19

Book of Amos ch9 13 “The days are coming,” declares the Lord,
“when the reaper will be overtaken by the plowman
and the planter by the one treading grapes.
New wine will drip from the mountains
and flow from all the hills,
14 and I will bring my people Israel back from exile.[f]
“They will rebuild the ruined cities and live in them.
They will plant vineyards and drink their wine;
they will make gardens and eat their fruit.
15 I will plant Israel in their own land,
never again to be uprooted
from the land I have given them,”
says the Lord your God.

By Left Coast on 2023 12 03

@ June Simon & Sutherland . . . . put down the Protocols & the Kazarian dribble!

What part of "Forever" is confusing for you ?

Read the 24th Chapter of Mathew . . .
3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

And he discusses wars, rumors of wars etc. . . . . which has happened many times over the millenia . . . so why not then?

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

The Anti-christ takes over the Temple during the 7 year Tribulation period . . . Daniel tells the story as does Zachariah 12

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

The Parable of the Fig Tree . . . is a symbol of Israel's National privilege . . . or the re-gathering of the Jews into their own land.
Abomination of Desolation fortold by Daniel Daniel 9:27 in the rebuilt Temple in Jerusalem as fortold by Paul 2 Thess 2:14
The end times Clock started to run when Israel took possession of Jerusalem in 1967.

The Book of Daniel . . . the 70th week of Daniel is now taking place before your eyes.

So many so-called Christians have never read the Bible . . .

By Fred Alexander on 2023 12 03

To John Sutherland:
One hundred years ago the British government published the Balfour Declaration which stipulated,
“His Majesty’s Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavors to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.”
In 1920, the WWI victorious allies met in San Remo for the purpose of drawing up boundaries for the captured territories. It was decided, among other things, to put Palestine under British Mandatory rule. Thus the Allies confirmed the pledge contained in the Balfour Declaration concerning the establishment of a Jewish national home in Palestine and made it a legal obligation on Britain and a legal entitlement for the Jews.
When the Palestine Mandate was drafted by the League of Nations pursuant to the San Remo Resolution, it added this important recital,
“Whereas recognition has thereby been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for reconstituting their national home in that country.”
This addition was of great importance as it affirmed the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine, which, by the way, the PA and the UN today are doing their best to deny. In addition, the Jewish right to “reconstitute” their national home was recognized. Thus the Jews were in Palestine as a matter of right and not sufferance.
The Mandate provided,
“The Administration of Palestine, while ensuring that the rights and position of other sections of the population are not prejudiced, shall facilitate Jewish immigration under suitable conditions and shall encourage, in co¬operation with the Jewish agency referred to in Article 4, close settlement by Jews on the land, including State lands and waste lands not required for public purposes.“

By John Sutherland on 2023 12 04

To: Fred Alexander:

Yes, Fred, I also have a copy of the Balfour letter, which some have argued was an attempt to remove the jews from English soil. The letter includes the phrase: "that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in..." Have the peaceful Palestinians been treated without prejudice? Many, including myself, think not.

I am also a genealogist and recent DNA results for many Jews inside occupied Palestine show their ancestral roots are NOT from Palestine, but are from Khazaria. Gee, who would have guessed that one, eh? In fact, in my book I quote that one (at least one) israeli wanted his DNA evidence changed to show his ancestral roots are from Palestine. The change in DNA evidence has been denied. Interesting, eh?

Israelis are not a separate race, and while they deal in lots of inbreeding, they are basically followers of either the Torah or the Talmud, both religious documents, not genetic documents. Let's face it, we are dealing with a religious sect or tribe, not a separate race. And to think they are among 'God's chosen ones' would have us question which alleged god has chosen such a people as its chosen ones. Satan? Certainly not a giving Christian or Muslim god, eh.

By the way, while paper records can sometimes be wrong for several reasons, DNA test results, even commercial DNA test results, do not ever seem to be wrong. Prove me wrong on that level, eh. Yes, I do like genetic genealogy. It works.

So, we seem to disagree a bit on history. While mine is based on certain facts and evidence, yours seems to be based on protecting a group that is without a legitimate legal country. Without their military use against the otherwise peaceful natives of Palestine from 1947 to the present, the israelis would not be located inside Palestine. In fact, early UNGA reports tell us that if the israelis did decide to bifurcate Palestine, there would be war. But, of course, the israelis seem to like war above peace.

“Israeli politicians are terrified of peace. They tremble with fear from the possibility of peace, because without war and without general mobilization they don’t know how to live." -- Quoted in Roman Frister, “Polish-Jewish Sociologist Compares West Bank Separation Fence to Warsaw Ghetto Walls,” Haaretz, September 1, 2011

By John Sutherland on 2023 12 04

To Fred Alexander (part 2):

Try to read some different and more realistic history documents as you seem bent on incorrect or inaccurate historical documents at present. Why do I suggest that? My friend in the international banking and legal world was raised Christian and trained in Talmudic disciplines, so he knows both worlds very well. I started my UN pathway with his suggestions, and yes, I have copies of some of the early UN documents that are usually so hard to find. My friend is another truth teller and if you think I am wrong in any of my statements, show me some verifiable evidence that teaches me that he and I are both wrong. Otherwise, have a nice day.

By Fred Alexander on 2023 12 04

Israel does not occupy Palestinian land
There never existed an Arab Palestinian nation or a country, indeed, no mention of the “Palestinian” Arab people in any history book written before 1960. Arabs from neighboring countries started immigrating into Palestine in late 19th century to take advantage of the infrastructure and jobs created by the newly invigorated Jewish people. They came in great numbers seeking a better life than in their Arab lands. During these years the Arabs dwelling in Israel were simply “Arabs” and, when the term “Palestinian” was used, it always referred to the Jews!
The “Palestinian people” were invented in the 1960s by Yasser Arafat. The Arabs residing in Israel began to pass themselves off as the ancient native peoples of this land (Jordan invented the name, “The West Bank.”) Today they even claim that Jesus was a Palestinian prophet and that the Jews never lived in this land. They have developed this pseudo-history to dupe the world into believing that their racist terror campaign against the Jews is a national liberation struggle!

By Left Coast on 2023 12 04

@ Sutherland . . . spoken like a British Israelite . . . you even found a critical Jew . . . which is not difficult.

"The British Israel Movement, or Identity Movement as it is called in America, believes that the Anglo-Saxon-Celtic peoples of Europe are the descendants of the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel. They are therefore the People of the Covenant through whom God promised to bless the earth. The throne of England is directly linked to the throne of David. When Jesus returns, the queen or her descendant will hand over the Throne to Jesus. There is therefore a direct link between the British Empire or the British Commonwealth of Nations and the Kingdom of God. "

Completely Nuts man . . .

"The Khazar Theory is another important Christian Identity belief with roots in the British Israelite movement. This theory claims that Ashkenazi Jews are not actually Semites. They believe that Jews are, instead, the descendants of Khazars. Through establishing Jews as Khazars, this theory helps isolate Jews from their claim to Israel. The Khazar Theory also establishes Jews as evil race-mixers. This theory is popular in many white supremacist circles, but it has been proven false by geneticists."

100s of years of this "Replacement" nonsense . . . peaked in the early 20th Century . . . but still out there for the Uninformed non Bible reading Christian to stumble over . . .

Romans 11

1I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.

2God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying,

3Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.

4But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.

5Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

6And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

7What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded

8(According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.

By Fred Alexander on 2023 12 04

To: John Sutherland
Hi John I can rebut all your pro Palestinians allegations however you are obviously anti-Israel, there is no point in a rebuttal. I suggest you study your history starting with the pogroms against the Jews by the peaceful Arabs.

By John Sutherland on 2023 12 04

I see a few rebuttals to my posts. None of the rebuttals provide any solid physical or legal evidence that my points are incorrect or inaccurate. Sad, but expected. The land is, and has been, Palestine. There is no legal state of israel. Prove me wrong with some UN documents or some other legal documents. Never mind the religious opinions. Show me evidence of a written constitution for a state called israel. [Hint... there is none...] Just try to be reasonable in your rebuttals. Thanks.

By Left Coast on 2023 12 04

@ Sutherland

Who says " Certainly not a giving Christian or Muslim god, eh." ? ? ?

Alla is an ancient arab god . . . absolutely nothing to do with the God of Abraham.
Was one of many . . .
In the 7th Century AD Moohamed selected him out of the group trying to be like the Israelites. You have obviously not read either the Koran or the Bible man . . .

There is no DNA Test for a Jew today . . . that is insane !
Judaism Believers can be any shade . . .

Tell me about the 144,000 that go out to Preach the Gospel during the Tribulation, who are they?
They are all Men, 12,000 from each of the 12 Tribes of Israel . . . obviously God knows where they are . . . and you are likely not included !


The Jews introduced to humanity the God, brought into existence the Bible that is the basis of the New Testament; gave the Christian world its Messiah; and gave much of the world its morality through the Torah, the Prophets, and the Ten Commandments. Those who hate that moral code hate the Jews.

What is amazing is the ignorance to the fact that the Imams state clearly that after they finish with the Jews are coming for YOU . . . Infadel ! ! !

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