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Mainstream Climate Science” is a stagnant swamp beside the real river of science

Sloppy Science from BHP head



Mr Kloppers of BHP says that the mainstream science is correct, and we need to stabilise (and eventually reduce) the carbon concentration in the atmosphere”.

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This is an amazingly sloppy comment from the head of a company whose shareholders would expect it to rely on good science and accurate language to run its businesses. Firstly, no power station these days puts “carbon” into the atmosphere. Carbon is a black sooty substance produced as a result of incomplete combustion of coal in open fires and dirty old fashioned boilers. In modern boilers, all carbon is completely burnt to produce invisible, non-polluting, life supporting carbon dioxide. Secondly, to describe the shallow agenda-driven model manipulation and data-fitting from the IPCC that supports the case for de-carbonising Australia as “mainstream science” means his minders have not kept up with the science nor the debate. Real science on the causes of climate change has gone far past the fairy story that carbon dioxide controls climate by causing global warming. Even a high school science student could tell him that carbon dioxide has “ZERO HEATING ABILITY”. It will not burn, nor is it radioactive. The very best it could ever do is cause a slight reduction in the day-time heating and night-time cooling of the earth’s surface - nothing that could be measured on a normal thermometer. A kindergarten student, however, could observe that the sun has tremendous heating ability, causing global warming of twenty degrees or more in a single day. Fluctuations in that fiery furnace, and in the clouds and ocean currents generated by solar heating, are far more significant in causing short term and long term variations in surface temperature. Those in the exciting forefront of climate science are doing real experiments in cloud chambers and studying cosmic rays, solar cycles, ocean currents, and the enormous heat released from the “Rings of Fire” under the oceans during volcanic episodes. BHP’s own stratigraphers could give Mr Kloppers more real data about past climate change than will ever be learned at an Al Gore science fiction movie. What he believes is the “mainstream” of climate science is driven by political agendas, government money and private vested interests – it is a stagnant swamp beside the real river of science. All over the world, common sense physics, correlation studies and now the unfolding science relating to solar and ocean cycles, cosmic rays, clouds and volcanoes have gone well past the scare stories of Al Gore’s “settled science”. At least some coal companies have not lost their wits or their courage. See the following submissions to the US EPA by Peabody Energy, the biggest coal company in the world: [url=http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/images/stories/papers/reprint/no_legal_option.pdf]http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/images/stories/papers/reprint/no_legal_option.pdf[/url] [url=http://www.climategate.com/worlds-biggest-coal-company-brings-us-government-to-court-in-climate-fraud]http://www.climategate.com/worlds-biggest-coal-company-brings-us-government-to-court-in-climate-fraud[/url]


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Viv Forbes -- Bio and Archives

Viv Forbes, Chairman, The Carbon Sense Coalition, has spent his life working in exploration, mining, farming, infrastructure, financial analysis and political commentary. He has worked for government departments, private companies and now works as a private contractor and farmer.

Viv has also been a guest writer for the Asian Wall Street Journal, Business Queensland and mining newspapers. He was awarded the “Australian Adam Smith Award for Services to the Free Society” in 1988, and has written widely on political, technical and economic subjects.


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